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Wednesday, November 5, 2008

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[2008.11.05 18:01:49] JeffsPress: hello all
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[2008.11.05 18:01:53] bappa: hai
[2008.11.05 18:01:58] shopaholic chick: hi jeff
[2008.11.05 18:02:12] shopaholic chick: hi dafna - not sure everyone realized the time change on chat....seems a bit slow so far
[2008.11.05 18:02:25] DafnaCP: Hi all, I'm substituting for Britta as she's super busy today
[2008.11.05 18:02:44] DafnaCP: so this does look a little small, I know the time changed on y'all a few times
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[2008.11.05 18:03:11] shopaholic chick: will this be moderated or open chat?
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[2008.11.05 18:03:27] DafnaCP: this will be a moderated chat; it makes it much easier to read
[2008.11.05 18:03:46] DafnaCP: I'll push everything out as quickly as possible but go easy on me, it's my first time modding : )
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[2008.11.05 18:04:06] shopaholic chick: and they left you all alone!!!
[2008.11.05 18:04:14] DafnaCP: haha, we'll get through it together!
[2008.11.05 18:04:51] DafnaCP: So today's chat is open. This is a great time for you all to ask eachother questions, share your shops etc...
[2008.11.05 18:04:56] DDKnight: Dafna! my hero! :)
[2008.11.05 18:05:02] saucepot: Hello, I have a quick question. I have a premium shop. Last week I I have a premium shop. Last week I noticed a product carousel on the item description pages that I thought was great. It's no longer there and the only reference I find to a carousel is in the information about the recent makeover of basic shops. Is the product carousel no longer available for premium shop items?
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[2008.11.05 18:05:51] shopaholic chick: it was never available on premium shops as an option - some people write their own code for it....it can lag your page though if you want shoppers on dial up yo are losing them all
[2008.11.05 18:06:14] barbd: Teesed offers a great one as a substitution. Though it isn'at a carousel. Cafewish Likewise.
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[2008.11.05 18:06:31] DafnaCP: So the product carousel wasn't exactly what we wanted out of it. We're working on some kinks and hope to put it out again as an option in the future.
[2008.11.05 18:07:12] DafnaCP: Barb, can you explain a little more what is available through 3rd parties?
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[2008.11.05 18:08:13] shopaholic chick: if you look in the third parties thread on the forum there are a lot of third party tools to "pimp out" your shop - just keep in mind they also lag your shop
[2008.11.05 18:08:46] barbd: Teesed offers CafeWish likewise. Any easy copy-paste script you put in the html. When someone clicks on a product in your store, you get this nifty little feature that puts up other products the design is on. I have seen lots of hits from it.
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[2008.11.05 18:09:23] shopaholic chick: another note - little flashing lights or snowflakes look pretty on your site - but are a turn off to many shoppers including those on dial up who get lagged - and those with eye problems or seizure disorder
[2008.11.05 18:10:11] DafnaCP: that's a good point shopa -- customization looks nice but it's not worth it if it interferes with the performance of the site
[2008.11.05 18:10:32] barbd: Other 3rd Party tools I have: Teesed replacement dropdown menu as a top nav bar. Anything to help customers find what they want. www.Cafepress.com/witnwhimsy -- my store if you want to see some of these in action. Just don't pay attention too closely, I'm switching from fall to christmas colors. ;)
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[2008.11.05 18:11:03] shopaholic chick: adding a flat snowflake background and holiday colros is nice - but nothing moving blinking or flashing
[2008.11.05 18:11:45] DDKnight: I believe Teesed also offers an easy to add code that will take a shopper directly to the product they click on in the market place...right now when a shopper clicks your link in the MP it goes to the shop front. With the code added it takes them right to the product in your shop
[2008.11.05 18:12:25] barbd: I was just typing that one DDKnight. Too fast for me!
[2008.11.05 18:12:34] preggoprincess: I wish Cp could do something with the dropdown menu - MAT-Dark T aint' pretty :-)
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[2008.11.05 18:12:38] DDKnight: lol
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[2008.11.05 18:12:55] shopaholic chick: also rememebr placing your url or HTML in the product description will prevent many people from affilaiting you
[2008.11.05 18:13:32] barbd: Use Teesed drop down. It doesn't have to be spread out like mine! There is a simple, one line replacement drop down one. And super easy to install.
[2008.11.05 18:14:13] wheedesign: Actually, I was wondering if the ability to put HTML in the product desc has been turned off. Any time I tried, even to add bold or something I couldn't save it.
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[2008.11.05 18:15:49] Tropicando: Hi
[2008.11.05 18:15:54] barbd: I thought you could only do that for section descriptions, not products.
[2008.11.05 18:16:41] DafnaCP: at one time we allowed html in product descriptions but we no longer do
[2008.11.05 18:16:46] Suzzie: there was a thread about that, you can't put HTML in product desc any more
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[2008.11.05 18:17:34] shopaholic chick: there are a few people with HTML in thier product decription - i find them when affilaiting and a lot of people type their url in there without html
[2008.11.05 18:18:41] preggoprincess: Still want CP to change theirs :-) I do not like to be dependant on others - and I think it's easy for CP to do that if they want to do so :-)
[2008.11.05 18:19:27] wheedesign: I think I still have some old descriptions with the HTML still there. I was linking back and forth between paired designs (TRICK and TREAT for Halloween for example). But I stopped doing that a while ago.
[2008.11.05 18:19:36] wheedesign: Now I need to remove the old ones.
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[2008.11.05 18:20:16] shopaholic chick: old designs or descriptions
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[2008.11.05 18:20:39] shopaholic chick: i dont remove anything unless it has a date on t - unless i NEED the space
[2008.11.05 18:21:18] wheedesign: Old descriptions. I need to get the HTML out of them, so if/when someone comes by and wants to affiliate, they won't be totally put off.
[2008.11.05 18:21:50] DDKnight: same here, I'v had designs from when I first started Cp(4 yrs ago next month) sell...its surprising! lol
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[2008.11.05 18:22:02] shopaholic chick: yeah i have been doing a lot of affilaiting and i either delete the html or if i am in a pissy move i just skip the design and go to the next one - even if i really like the design
[2008.11.05 18:22:43] wheedesign: Yeah. NEVER delete an old item. I actually sold a Clinton/Obama ticket button just a few days before the election. You never know what someone might want to buy.
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[2008.11.05 18:23:00] shopaholic chick: i sold an obama today LMAO
[2008.11.05 18:23:17] DafnaCP: Are we all seeing the post-election upswing today?
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[2008.11.05 18:23:36] DDKnight: again..same here shoppa! I have 7 offsites for affiliating CP....I pass up on some really good designs becuase of stuff like that...no description...image no fitted right...etc...frustrating!
[2008.11.05 18:23:45] shopaholic chick: no dafna - i am seeing the same as i have for a weeek
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[2008.11.05 18:24:22] DDKnight: yeaterday was good for me, 21 products sold
[2008.11.05 18:24:26] barbd: I have sold a few election things today.
[2008.11.05 18:24:37] DDKnight: but..i have 14 prem shops LOL
[2008.11.05 18:24:43] wheedesign: I got nothing today. The election was HUGE for me. Mostly one design. Things have slowed down a LOT.
[2008.11.05 18:24:45] shopaholic chick: oj and if everyone comes to the lobby afterchat i have an affiate site needing designs so stick around to find out how LOL
[2008.11.05 18:25:04] Tropicando: low activity here. sold halloween-obama mini buttons today
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[2008.11.05 18:25:18] shopaholic chick: oh and everyone please excuse my typos - the typo fairy hates me apparently
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[2008.11.05 18:26:21] DafnaCP: Do consider adding Obama victory designs as I suspect we'll see sales for those items for the next week or so
[2008.11.05 18:26:33] barbd: so, when can I expect the holiday sales rush? Economy not with-standing of course
[2008.11.05 18:26:46] DDKnight: i did one today and put it up in a basic
[2008.11.05 18:26:53] barbd: Ahem, some of us are adding anti-Obama victory stuff
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[2008.11.05 18:27:16] DafnaCP: either way Barb! I'm an equal opportunity t-shirt seller!
[2008.11.05 18:27:23] shopaholic chick: honestly i swore i was not going to add any poltiical then in sept i was inspired and made a line for each candidate and make like $3000 off them - even making them late
[2008.11.05 18:27:28] Tropicando: I seen those selling in the news- homemade obama tees
[2008.11.05 18:27:41] DDKnight: agreed! hope you sell millions! lol
[2008.11.05 18:27:43] Tropicando: I was putting the finishing touches on an Obama Vday tee myself
[2008.11.05 18:27:51] wheedesign: From what I've been readin gin the forums, it looks like holiday sales should pick up i nthe next week or so. I sure hope so.
[2008.11.05 18:27:53] shopaholic chick: barb starting soon hopefully
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[2008.11.05 18:28:51] Tropicando: wow shoppa, mai frend, mai monied frend
[2008.11.05 18:28:55] barbd: Oh tip: if you use the copy section to put up new designs, it seems to take longer than a new section. I tested it out. Some items one day with the copy section. New section, next day -- designs were up before the older section.
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[2008.11.05 18:29:34] shopaholic chick: lol actually i would liek to take this time to say thank you mccain for my new wacon intuos3 pen-pad LOL
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[2008.11.05 18:30:25] shopaholic chick: barb do you mean in the MP or in your shop?
[2008.11.05 18:31:08] barbd: in the MP. Sorry should have been more specific.
[2008.11.05 18:31:52] Tropicando: am i the only one to have sold a mccain-palin thong and matching camisole?
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[2008.11.05 18:32:19] shopaholic chick: i sold a thong i dont thin they patched it with a top thouh
[2008.11.05 18:32:31] barbd: LOL Tropicando. I've sold some odd items, but not that.
[2008.11.05 18:32:46] barbd: I did sell a dog bowl with a Clinton theme.
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[2008.11.05 18:33:08] Tropicando: I sold a mccain dog bowl
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[2008.11.05 18:33:30] shopaholic chick: i can only hope that a stripper was wearing some of them LOL
[2008.11.05 18:34:08] Tropicando: What do you think about Obama/Thanksgiving themes
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[2008.11.05 18:34:38] shopaholic chick: i think i am dun with political for 3 1/2 more years
[2008.11.05 18:34:50] barbd: I think if you can find a unique way, there will be someone who REALLY like Obama to buy them.
[2008.11.05 18:35:33] DafnaCP: Tropicando, I might try holiday cards instead
[2008.11.05 18:35:38] Tropicando: Well I thought it was the end. But I think you cannot understimate the Obama post election afterglow
[2008.11.05 18:36:15] Tropicando: You mean thanksgiving cards?
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[2008.11.05 18:36:30] DafnaCP: Nope, I mean I'd skip Thanksgiving and do Holiday instead
[2008.11.05 18:36:33] shopaholic chick: i am not underestimating it - i am tired of it lol
[2008.11.05 18:37:03] Tropicando: You mean December then
[2008.11.05 18:37:08] DafnaCP: Yup!
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[2008.11.05 18:37:36] shopaholic chick: ohhh big tip tedn out your holiday cards thanksgiving week - with your bsness card in them so they arrive immediatly after black friday for all those shoppers who cant fidn what they like in the stores on that day!!!
[2008.11.05 18:37:44] barbd: Actually, for Christmas cards, you'd want them out soon -- most mail them early December. That means they'll order within the next few weeks.
[2008.11.05 18:38:24] DafnaCP: Yeah, this is the time to get those Holiday cards up and available, they're an early-sell product
[2008.11.05 18:38:31] Tropicando: I had a close one die xmas week so it's tuff, but I'll give it a shot this year for xmas designs
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[2008.11.05 18:39:12] Suzzie: i couldn't put a business card in a christmas card.. i think i would be smited from above.
[2008.11.05 18:39:25] shopaholic chick: i dont sell a lot of holiday cards to be honest - prolly cuz of the cost - we buy ours the day after xmas for next year and spend like $.99 for a 20 pack at target
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[2008.11.05 18:39:56] shopaholic chick: LMAO - i just got a donot for an obama while we are in chat
[2008.11.05 18:40:32] Tropicando: right on
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[2008.11.05 18:40:43] shopaholic chick: suzzie i put them with a note that says "hope your family is doing well, this year my shop is doing good, please keep it in mind for those hard to find gifts"
[2008.11.05 18:40:53] barbd: I always do a newsletter with mine. So I'm including my url (and maybe business card) with a "This is what I've been doing" aspect.
[2008.11.05 18:41:24] cole has entered the room "CafePress Chat Room"
[2008.11.05 18:42:40] Tropicando: I have a question. I notice some shops have ordering phone numbers; do you need permission from CP to use them or can you post them on your own?
[2008.11.05 18:43:16] barbd: I think I remember hearing the numbers were on old templates and not new ones.
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[2008.11.05 18:43:33] DafnaCP: go ahead and post 'em! Do keep in mind that phone orders will usually be counted as an MP sale (unless the customer has a cart number).
[2008.11.05 18:43:41] shopaholic chick: that is CP's number that is built into the CP templates - rememebr call in order means it gets marked marhetplace not shop
[2008.11.05 18:44:38] barbd: I think it's important to have them as there are occasionally bugs in the system. Rather have an MP sale than none at all!
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[2008.11.05 18:44:51] Tropicando: That's not a problem, most of my sales are MP. Until I begin promotions on youtube...
[2008.11.05 18:45:00] DafnaCP: Some customers just prefer to order by phone.
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[2008.11.05 18:45:05] shopaholic chick: britta your late:-p
[2008.11.05 18:45:17] alicethelna: is the place where Britta is hosting the chat 4pm?
[2008.11.05 18:45:18] BrittaCP: Hi Alice... yes it is. However it was bumped to 3pm at the last minute
[2008.11.05 18:45:29] BrittaCP: I apoligize for the last minute change
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[2008.11.05 18:46:13] wheedesign: I suppose that has to be weighted against, either making a marketplace sale or not making any sale though. Hmmm.... Now I'm wondering if I should remove the number from my site. It's small, so I don't think I'm actually driving anyone to call instead of buy online.
[2008.11.05 18:46:16] BrittaCP: but worth the wait ;)
[2008.11.05 18:46:45] barbd: Youtube huh? How is that working for you?
[2008.11.05 18:46:51] wheedesign: I see I missed barbs comment while I was typing. Makes sense. So the phone number stays.
[2008.11.05 18:47:08] Tropicando: By the way is that phone line 24hrs?
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[2008.11.05 18:47:54] Tropicando: I'm guessing yes
[2008.11.05 18:47:56] shopaholic chick: i dont think it is....
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[2008.11.05 18:48:35] cole: no its not
[2008.11.05 18:48:57] DafnaCP: nope, hours are 9am to 9pm Eastern Monday through Saturday
[2008.11.05 18:49:02] wheedesign: Monday - Saturday 9:00 am - 9:00 pm EST.
[2008.11.05 18:49:12] cole: what is the difference on our end if the sale is marketplace or shop? we get a bonus if its stright from the shop?
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[2008.11.05 18:49:44] shopaholic chick: we only get bonus on sales from shop not from MP
[2008.11.05 18:49:48] Tropicando: youtube, I have not actually uploaded anything, but in the past I have sent animated greeting to my friends, so why not use it commercially :)
[2008.11.05 18:49:59] alicethelna: will you be in seattle on saturday?
[2008.11.05 18:50:01] alicethelna: or can I come by the offices in San Mateo when I'm in the Bay Area for Thanksgiving
[2008.11.05 18:50:03] alicethelna: I have LOTS of questions
[2008.11.05 18:50:24] BrittaCP: Yes... both dafna and I will be in seattle on saturday
[2008.11.05 18:50:28] BrittaCP: we look foward to seeing you
[2008.11.05 18:50:34] DafnaCP: ome find me and I'll be happy to answer your questions.
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[2008.11.05 18:50:41] shopaholic chick: alice feel free to come to the lobby after this chat ends and there are a lot of us shopkeepers who can help you out
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[2008.11.05 18:50:53] cole: How is teh bonus worked out, a percentage, a flat rate? Sorry I dont know how this works
[2008.11.05 18:51:02] alicethelna: ok - thanks!
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[2008.11.05 18:51:41] alicethelna: it should read: alicethelma
[2008.11.05 18:51:42] alicethelna: but my name is really Chris
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[2008.11.05 18:51:49] alicethelna: and the shop is "I LOVE KNITTING"
[2008.11.05 18:51:55] BrittaCP: i recall that from the RSVP lsit
[2008.11.05 18:52:01] alicethelna: confusing I know
[2008.11.05 18:52:03] shopaholic chick: alice u can ask here too that way others can profit from the answers
[2008.11.05 18:52:08] Tropicando: shopa is very informative
[2008.11.05 18:52:11] shopaholic chick: cole it is a % of your base shop sales once you reach $100 in base shop sales....and the % goes up the more base shop you have
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[2008.11.05 18:52:24] shopaholic chick: thanks trop....but even i learn new things every dayu
[2008.11.05 18:52:42] cole: Ah, got it! Thanks so much.
[2008.11.05 18:52:46] alicethelna: well one question is this: Why is the graphic on my mugs offset - cockeyed.
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[2008.11.05 18:53:00] alicethelna: off to one side
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[2008.11.05 18:53:29] BrittaCP: but yes... i recommend also haning out in the lonny after this chat. we will reopen it
[2008.11.05 18:53:34] BrittaCP: *lobby
[2008.11.05 18:53:43] shopaholic chick: oh you can set it to print right left or center - if you want it to wrap around you have to make it like a bumper sticker
[2008.11.05 18:53:44] Tropicando: I've noticed that on embroidery
[2008.11.05 18:53:54] alicethelna: how can i get in touch with "Chairman Meow" ....
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[2008.11.05 18:54:37] BrittaCP: i here he is quite busy these days... with his royal kitty duties
[2008.11.05 18:54:49] BrittaCP: but there maybe contact info in the shop
[2008.11.05 18:54:54] bignumpt: Are you using the correct Mug Template?
[2008.11.05 18:54:58] alicethelna: I greatly admire his shop...
[2008.11.05 18:55:00] Tropicando: I love chairman meow
[2008.11.05 18:55:06] barbd: you meant loony... as in loony bin, admit it Britta! ;)
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[2008.11.05 18:55:14] BrittaCP: my brain often belongs there
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[2008.11.05 18:55:18] shopaholic chick: you cant contact other shop keepers unless they have their email posted - or on the forums you can try to right click on their name and invite them to a private topic
[2008.11.05 18:55:22] alicethelna: I feel stymied by my lack of hardcore html coding skills
[2008.11.05 18:55:26] Tropicando: If i was versed in afiliation I would affiliate it- chairman meow that is
[2008.11.05 18:55:30] shopaholic chick: barb we are all loony
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[2008.11.05 18:55:59] BrittaCP: Alright gagn... well thanks for taking it easy for Dafna
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[2008.11.05 18:56:10] BrittaCP: *gang
[2008.11.05 18:56:12] shopaholic chick: alice i have NO html coding skills unless you count me copying and pasting other peoples code LOL
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[2008.11.05 18:56:18] Tropicando: i am one of the sane ones
[2008.11.05 18:56:22] shopaholic chick: britta i think u and ang owe dafna a beer for leavig her alone with us!!
[2008.11.05 18:56:46] BrittaCP: agreed
[2008.11.05 18:56:49] DafnaCP: mmmm, beer
[2008.11.05 18:56:52] alicethelna: has anyone submitted their url directly to google?
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[2008.11.05 18:57:03] BrittaCP: I will open up the lobby now... actually it's already open
[2008.11.05 18:57:09] Tropicando: thanks dafna and master of chats
[2008.11.05 18:57:15] alicethelna: I am driving up to Seattle from Vancouver, WA and there's a possibility of flooding on I5 - it's that time of year...
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[2008.11.05 18:57:25] BrittaCP: fingers crossed you can make it
[2008.11.05 18:57:27] shopaholic chick: alice come to the lobby and i will give you a ton of ways to get exposure like that fro free
[2008.11.05 18:57:35] BrittaCP: Thanks for joining!