Holiday SEO Meeting

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[2007.10.09 19:03:53] AngelaCP: Based on previous chats, instead of focusing on one Holiday Prep chat we’ve decided to make our Holiday Prep chat a series focused on each area so we can cover more information during the chat...
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[2007.10.09 19:04:10] AngelaCP: Before we begin, this is a reminder that this chat is moderated. For those new to chat, your questions or comments will be put in a queue and will only be posted once we push it live. We do get a lot of posts coming in and we’ll do our best to get to as many questions and comments possible.
[2007.10.09 19:04:22] AngelaCP: So let’s get started. I recognize a lot seasoned Shopkeepers (sks) today… I bet most, if not all, of you that have experienced a few holidays with CafePress is already on top of Holiday SEO for your shop?
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[2007.10.09 19:04:37] AngelaCP: GET AN EARLY START ON HOLIDAY SEO
[2007.10.09 19:04:49] AngelaCP: As most seasoned SKs know, getting an early start on optimizing your shop for search engines is BENEFICIAL.
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[2007.10.09 19:05:07] AngelaCP: During the Holiday season, everybody's shopping for everything and search engines are one of the top ways to find gifts during the Holidays.
[2007.10.09 19:05:13] AngelaCP: Do you all agree? ;)
[2007.10.09 19:05:25] birdface@comcast.net: si
[2007.10.09 19:05:27] magadog1: yes. . .
[2007.10.09 19:05:29] AngelaCP: Starting early means your pages get indexed for the related holiday terms… terms customers are using to search on search engines such as Google, Yahoo, MSN, etc…
[2007.10.09 19:05:42] AngelaCP: Can anyone share more about this? Experiences of how early SEO have paid off.
[2007.10.09 19:05:45] The Shadow: Google is your friend... sometimes :)
[2007.10.09 19:05:51] AngelaCP: it's good to have google as your friend ;)
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[2007.10.09 19:05:58] AngelaCP: very rewarding isn't it?
[2007.10.09 19:06:04] NiftyGaloot: Yep, Xmas 2009's comin' up soon! Time to get the SEO goin'
[2007.10.09 19:06:19] KC Graphics: lol:-D
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[2007.10.09 19:06:37] AngelaCP: no sharing of past experiences w/early SEO?
[2007.10.09 19:06:40] magadog1: Do you have to sign up for additional search engine services?
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[2007.10.09 19:06:57] AngelaCP: No. It's a matter of optimizing your for search engines - to get indexed
[2007.10.09 19:07:07] kippy: Google is absolutely indexing new sites like mad right now, FYI, so it's not too late to get a quality site out there and seen!
[2007.10.09 19:07:14] The Shadow: I have only been late with SEO but Google seems to pick me up fast
[2007.10.09 19:07:17] AngelaCP: I'll touch upon how in a moment... britta made fancy screen shots to help illustrate it
[2007.10.09 19:07:19] magadog1: Search Engine Optimization=SEO?
[2007.10.09 19:07:24] BrittaCP: YES, EXACTLY
[2007.10.09 19:07:29] AngelaCP: correct Kippy... For Holidays, if you already started great! If you haven’t…now is the time. It’s early October. Ideally you’ll want to be ready now so your pages are indexed for early Holiday shoppers.
[2007.10.09 19:07:53] The Shadow: remember you main page is probably indexed the most often so that is where I try to make the largest effect
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[2007.10.09 19:08:20] AngelaCP: Thanks Shadow. I agree. You can add more to this in a moment when I share where to SEO ;)
[2007.10.09 19:08:34] AngelaCP: Although it’s better early… it’s always better late than never!
[2007.10.09 19:08:37] The Shadow: ok :)
[2007.10.09 19:08:40] magadog1: Oh, so you change the copy a bit on yours shop home page?
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[2007.10.09 19:09:06] AngelaCP: Yes. You have more flexibility if you have a Premium Shop though...
[2007.10.09 19:09:13] magadog1: Or do you add a bunch of words like "holiday" "Christmas," etc to your images?
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[2007.10.09 19:09:24] foxvox: I usually put up featured gifts, lots of good holiday text, and perhaps make a snowflake background to make it look more festive. ;-)
[2007.10.09 19:09:37] AngelaCP: That's tagging. Last week we went over this. It's better to describe the image vs putting things like christmas, holiday, etc.
[2007.10.09 19:09:39] The Shadow: copy, titles, descriptions, links, images.. everything will help maddog
[2007.10.09 19:09:56] foxvox: Remember that google can't see what's in your images so you have to use text for good SEO.
[2007.10.09 19:10:05] NiftyGaloot: I try to write descriptions for good SEO year round and holidays both.
[2007.10.09 19:10:05] AngelaCP: wow, you guys are definitely on top of this
[2007.10.09 19:10:18] AngelaCP: Well, you'll see that I'll be covering some of this so let me move on
[2007.10.09 19:10:27] AngelaCP: HOW TO SEO YOUR SHOP?
[2007.10.09 19:10:35] AngelaCP: Now that you know SEOing your shop early is important and gets you in the game of search, the next question is how do I optimize my shop for the holidays?
[2007.10.09 19:10:39] Robb: Hello all. Looking forward to learning more here.
[2007.10.09 19:10:45] AngelaCP: We’ll start with the “Where.”
[2007.10.09 19:10:56] AngelaCP: that's great Robb! we hope you learn a lot :)
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[2007.10.09 19:11:03] AngelaCP: I’ll start out by listing all the areas of a Premium Shop where you can add content to optimize your shop for search engines.
[2007.10.09 19:11:12] AngelaCP: • Shop Introduction (custom copy area on your storefront)
[2007.10.09 19:11:19] AngelaCP: • Section Descriptions (shows up at the top of the page at a section level)
[2007.10.09 19:11:26] AngelaCP: • Section Names (title for section page and shows up in the bread crumbs)
[2007.10.09 19:11:32] AngelaCP: • Section Teasers (short copy under Section Names)
[2007.10.09 19:11:40] AngelaCP: • Shop Name (shows up in the bread crumbs)
[2007.10.09 19:11:45] AngelaCP: • Shop Title (shows up in the title bar)
[2007.10.09 19:11:52] AngelaCP: • Image Alt Tags (displays when you mouse over an image)
[2007.10.09 19:12:04] AngelaCP: •Metatags (in your source code)
[2007.10.09 19:12:12] AngelaCP: I’ll share some screen shots pointing out where the areas are to optimize. In the next example, you’ll see the Section Name, Section Description, and Section Teaser.
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[2007.10.09 19:13:04] Butterfly: Don't forget "alt" tags on images...
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[2007.10.09 19:13:18] BrittaCP: oh yeah... we'll talk about those in justa a second
[2007.10.09 19:13:24] electricgreen: Links to what? (re Shadow's post)
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[2007.10.09 19:13:42] AngelaCP sent a picture:
[2007.10.09 19:13:42] The Shadow: In summation.... anywhere you can type
[2007.10.09 19:13:52] AngelaCP: sorry it took so long
[2007.10.09 19:14:22] AngelaCP: This SK did a great job in optimizing her page with keywords to that’s relevant to her shop and product offerings.
[2007.10.09 19:14:40] AngelaCP: can you see all the keywords that was used? the way it's content focused...
[2007.10.09 19:14:44] AngelaCP: very good for seo
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[2007.10.09 19:14:52] Rhea: Google likes sentences. Don't forget to use punctuation.
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[2007.10.09 19:15:12] Robb: Great content so far, Angela - I'm looking forward to the transcript already.
[2007.10.09 19:15:14] AngelaCP: On the next example, you will see the Product Name and Product Description filled out.
[2007.10.09 19:15:28] The Shadow: and remember not to keyword spam... google hates that
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[2007.10.09 19:15:35] AngelaCP sent a picture:
[2007.10.09 19:15:52] AngelaCP: Something that wasn’t pointed out but I will is the bread crumbs up on the top of the page. Notice the first link “kippygo Designs”, that’s the Shop Title. The following links are Section Names. Using good Section Names helps SEO because it shows up on other pages as bread crumbs.
[2007.10.09 19:16:00] AngelaCP: Thanks Kippy :)
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[2007.10.09 19:16:16] AngelaCP: and thanks michigal for the first example ;)
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[2007.10.09 19:16:38] kippy: Two fabulous shops, eh? ;)
[2007.10.09 19:16:46] BrittaCP: thumbs up!
[2007.10.09 19:16:48] AngelaCP: very much so :).
[2007.10.09 19:16:51] AngelaCP: Last screen shot is the Image Alt Tags, commonly referred to as alt tags. When you mouse over an image and that image has alt tags coded, a small display with the description shows up. See the example below. The image over the “flying ace” grabber image shows the alt tag below.
[2007.10.09 19:17:05] AngelaCP sent a picture:
[2007.10.09 19:17:21] BrittaCP: FYI... you can click on the picture to see it better
[2007.10.09 19:17:23] AngelaCP: this is a very small image... can you see the alt tag?
[2007.10.09 19:17:42] birdface@comcast.net: how do you do alt tags?
[2007.10.09 19:17:55] AngelaCP: Does anyone here know the code for alt tags off hand?
[2007.10.09 19:17:58] scarebaby: i never knew this was there
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[2007.10.09 19:18:08] AngelaCP: So FoxVox mentioned this already....
[2007.10.09 19:18:09] Winter: I didn't know we could do that with our CP shops
[2007.10.09 19:18:11] AngelaCP: Another thing I have noticed. We have creative, talented SKs that use a lot of images on their shop. Some of these images are in place of text… Search Engines cannot read images. If you must use images in place of text, be sure to add alt tags.
[2007.10.09 19:18:14] foxvox: CLICK HERE
[2007.10.09 19:18:24] The Shadow: where you define the image add alt=whatever"
[2007.10.09 19:18:37] AngelaCP: Take a look at the SnoopStore example, the left nav “Meet the Gang” and other similar text is actually an image. If you go to the actual snoopystore, you will the text images have alt tags.
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[2007.10.09 19:18:57] magadog1: Will this chat be archived?
[2007.10.09 19:18:58] BrittaCP: yes, the transcript will be posted
[2007.10.09 19:19:10] foxvox: You can only do it with images you add to your template, not with cp images like section or product images, etc.
[2007.10.09 19:19:27] kippy: SEO totally gets in the way of being an artist... It's frustrating, but an unfortunate fact if we actually want to sell our gear! :)
[2007.10.09 19:19:29] Alan (deadhippo):
[2007.10.09 19:19:32] ThE_RiPPeR:
[2007.10.09 19:19:45] Winter: So these alt tags are added to the images we create not the images of each individual item in the store you sell?
[2007.10.09 19:19:49] AngelaCP: I agree with that Kippy... it's a balancing act. There are SKs that do a great job in doing both.
[2007.10.09 19:20:03] Winter: Okay, nevermind. FoxVox answered my question. Thank you.
[2007.10.09 19:20:07] AngelaCP: She always does ;)
[2007.10.09 19:20:11] AngelaCP: Last example is the Shop Title copy and where you can input this in the Member Account.
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[2007.10.09 19:20:23] Alan (deadhippo): You can also add a title tag which will have the same effect in Firefox
[2007.10.09 19:20:27] foxvox: ;-)
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[2007.10.09 19:20:46] AngelaCP: Britta's fancy image here.
[2007.10.09 19:20:55] The Shadow: CP automatically adds alt tags to your section image thumbnails and your product thumbnails
[2007.10.09 19:21:05] AngelaCP: That is correct Shadow :)
[2007.10.09 19:21:20] AngelaCP: the alt tags should be used on your storefront
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[2007.10.09 19:21:34] AngelaCP: on images you placed that's not generated from your shop
[2007.10.09 19:21:51] Butterfly: Shadow: keyword spam? Please explain, thank you!:)
[2007.10.09 19:22:02] Alan (deadhippo): Why don't our thumbs apppear in google search
[2007.10.09 19:22:15] AngelaCP: I'm not sure... you mean the Google image search?
[2007.10.09 19:22:24] Alan (deadhippo): yes
[2007.10.09 19:22:25] camobabygifts: is there a limit on meda tags descriptions?
[2007.10.09 19:22:32] AngelaCP: I believe it's 250 characters
[2007.10.09 19:22:44] magadog1: I am lost. How do you add them if they're automatically added?
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[2007.10.09 19:23:01] magadog1: Will Google pick up on the sections and products if you use the KEY words?
[2007.10.09 19:23:01] magadog1: Okay, I am the dummy here. Don't you need to know HTML to use the alt tags?
[2007.10.09 19:23:01] Alan (deadhippo): and maybe other browsers
[2007.10.09 19:23:02] Robb: I have a slightly off topic question - how to reset/delete 'old' product sets when submitting multiple products...not important right now...
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[2007.10.09 19:23:35] AngelaCP: Magadog1, For the section thumbnails and product thumbnails, the alt tags are the same as the Section Name and Product Name
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[2007.10.09 19:23:51] AngelaCP: so you don't have to do special coding as you would for the storefront of your shop
[2007.10.09 19:24:19] foxvox: You should feel at least somewhat comfortable with HTML before messing with your Custom HTML to add alt tags, yes. But CP automatically does alt tags on section and product images, so no worries there.
[2007.10.09 19:24:39] AngelaCP: So let's move on to ...
[2007.10.09 19:24:44] AngelaCP: USE THE “RIGHT” KEYWORDS
[2007.10.09 19:24:44] magadog1: ok, thanks
[2007.10.09 19:24:57] AngelaCP: Now that we know when to SEO, where to SEO, how about what to SEO?
[2007.10.09 19:25:09] AngelaCP: During the Holidays the keyword “gift” will get a lot of hits. Combine the keyword “gift” with words related to the theme of your shop/merchandise.
[2007.10.09 19:25:20] AngelaCP: What you really want to do is focus your keywords on the theme of your shop/merchandise.
[2007.10.09 19:25:29] AngelaCP: If your shop is already optimize for search engines, add the top Holiday gift search terms. For example, if your target audience is dog lovers, then let them know you have "dog lover gifts" or "dog lover gift ideas."
[2007.10.09 19:25:44] AngelaCP: Here a list of Top Holiday Search Terms…
[2007.10.09 19:25:51] AngelaCP: Gift idea, gift, gifts, merchandise, unique gift, online gift, baby gift, gift shop, holiday presents, Christmas presents, holiday gifts, Christmas gifts, personalized gift, gift for her, gift for him, Christmas decorations, holiday decorations, “your product/theme” gift…
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[2007.10.09 19:26:07] AngelaCP: Find a way to work it into your shop descriptions, product descriptions, sections, etc
[2007.10.09 19:26:18] kippy: are these top holiday search terms for the marketplace?
[2007.10.09 19:26:22] Robb: Cool - makes sense.
[2007.10.09 19:26:40] AngelaCP: These are for your shop. The marketplace is based on description of designs so no need to enter these terms in your tag
[2007.10.09 19:26:58] AngelaCP: we may use them for our seo, but in terms of tags focus on describing your design
[2007.10.09 19:27:06] foxvox: "Merchandise"? really? I would never have thought to search for that - heh.
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[2007.10.09 19:27:18] AngelaCP: I was told this was the topic list from SEO gurus
[2007.10.09 19:27:24] dorothy: Hi
[2007.10.09 19:27:25] BrittaCP: Hi Dorothy, welcome. We're talking about Holiday Search Engine Optimization right now
[2007.10.09 19:27:35] dorothy: why are all my messages being sent to moderators and not to the chat room
[2007.10.09 19:27:37] AngelaCP: Keep in mind these keywords are competitive so do not expect to search for the word “gift” on Google and expect to see it on page one. If you don’t, it’s not that youre doing something wrong… it just means there’s more people trying to get their stuff ahead of you.
[2007.10.09 19:27:51] AngelaCP: That’s why you should combine the keyword “gift” with something related to your shop.
[2007.10.09 19:27:54] BrittaCP: this is a moderated chat... so you messages will go into a queue before being pushed out
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[2007.10.09 19:28:03] AngelaCP: As a customer, they are more likely to narrow their search based on the results. If they are getting pages of gift sites that may not be specific to what they are looking for, they will try again by adding the topic… for example “pop culture gifts.”
[2007.10.09 19:28:07] NiftyGaloot: e.g. Makes a great Christmas gift for Grandma or any woman.
[2007.10.09 19:28:10] Butterfly: All hail the SEO gurus!!!!!!!!
[2007.10.09 19:28:46] AngelaCP: that's good nifty...including a holiday keyword with the recipient is good
[2007.10.09 19:28:56] Robb: Dorothy - the moderators filter relevant content to the chat...
[2007.10.09 19:29:11] magadog1: And should GIFT be a staple word in all your shops and tagged on all your images?
[2007.10.09 19:29:25] AngelaCP: No. Do not use gift in your Tags. Use words that describe your image.
[2007.10.09 19:29:39] The Shadow: you are far better to target long tail searches, like "Cool children's christmas gift" and not short tail searches like"gift"
[2007.10.09 19:30:02] AngelaCP: Correct. It's less competitive.
[2007.10.09 19:30:07] Robb: Hmmm....interesting Angela. Removing gift tags :-)
[2007.10.09 19:30:13] AngelaCP: [[applauds]]
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[2007.10.09 19:30:20] kippy: I meant is the list you just gave based on search terms for the marketplace or for search engines?
[2007.10.09 19:30:28] BrittaCP: Search Engines
[2007.10.09 19:30:49] dorothy: wow I asked a question about premium shops and how to get the grpahics in and I guess it wasnt the right stuff for the moderators
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[2007.10.09 19:31:05] AngelaCP: dorothy, the chat topic is holiday seo and we're working our way on the list...
[2007.10.09 19:31:17] AngelaCP: all responses goes into a queue... i'll see if i can find your question
[2007.10.09 19:31:23] BrittaCP: We'll be opening up the lobby in about 15 minutes where you can ask this question to other Shopkeepers
[2007.10.09 19:31:29] BrittaCP: who can help you out
[2007.10.09 19:31:39] foxvox: Dorothy - that might be a question better asked on the forums themselves, since this chat has a specific topic.
[2007.10.09 19:31:55] dorothy: I see! Ok, thought it was a open type thing where I could get some help. Thanks!
[2007.10.09 19:32:02] AngelaCP: Thanks dorothy!
[2007.10.09 19:32:14] magadog1: well, that gives me a few more characters to broaden my descriptors.
[2007.10.09 19:32:26] AngelaCP: so we can open this up
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[2007.10.09 19:32:35] NiftyGaloot: Even better - Great Birthday, Mother's day, or Christmas gift for your girlfriend, wife, grandma, or mom.
[2007.10.09 19:32:36] AngelaCP: i did a speedy run down of all the top things to do
[2007.10.09 19:32:54] AngelaCP: i think shadow shared what are the important areas to focused on... i agree the storefront is priority 1
[2007.10.09 19:33:36] AngelaCP: Product descriptions take a lot of time so focus on Section Names, descriptions and teasers
[2007.10.09 19:33:45] AngelaCP: you get more bang for your resource buck
[2007.10.09 19:33:46] AngelaCP: ;)
[2007.10.09 19:33:56] magadog1: Shop descriptors and then sections and then items.
[2007.10.09 19:33:59] AngelaCP: Yes
[2007.10.09 19:34:08] AngelaCP: Number one is storefront
[2007.10.09 19:34:49] AngelaCP: Remember in one of my examples, I showed that the Section Names also carries across to other pages as you drill down... that's good for SEO on other pages
[2007.10.09 19:34:51] sobamelaquena: Angela, what is the web site to query for the variations of a search term and the count of hits for each search term? i know that there is some site out there but i dont remember the url
[2007.10.09 19:35:03] BrittaCP: this one was recommended in a previous chat: morekeywords.com
[2007.10.09 19:35:12] Robb: I've been storing phrases and search friendly text in an Excel sheet, and then just cutting and pasting from there - speeds thing up a little...
[2007.10.09 19:35:26] AngelaCP: great tip.
[2007.10.09 19:35:34] kippy: Number two is feed kippy.
[2007.10.09 19:35:37] magadog1: arcchived. Good. I see I got a little stuck in tagging instead of SEO
[2007.10.09 19:35:38] AngelaCP: It's a spreadsheet you can reuse next year when it's time to remove the holiday keywords
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[2007.10.09 19:35:47] Alan (deadhippo): Here is another - http://inventory.overture.com/d/searchinventory/suggestion/
[2007.10.09 19:36:13] AngelaCP: I believe some Sks keep their holiday sections but bury them deep to continue to get their pages indexed
[2007.10.09 19:36:26] AngelaCP: I don't hvae experience on this but perhaps someone can share?
[2007.10.09 19:36:30] NiftyGaloot: For keywords I use: http://inventory.overture.com/d/searchinventory/suggestion/
[2007.10.09 19:36:32] kippy: You could use yahoo's overture tool. Wordtracker also has a free, but very limited, tool at http://freekeywords.wordtracker.com/. If you're really serious, a paid subscirption to wordtracker is WELL worth it.
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[2007.10.09 19:36:35] The Shadow: your homepage typically has the highest page rank and the most links, which factors into most SERP's... the idea is to capture them once you have your claws on them.... I mean their attention to draw them into the rest of your store :)
[2007.10.09 19:36:40] sobamelaquena: Thanks ALAN, that is
[2007.10.09 19:36:59] ThE_RiPPeR: morekeywords.com This service has been taken down. Don't fret. It'll be coming back with 10 times better data under a new suite of kicking tools.
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[2007.10.09 19:37:08] BrittaCP: good to know!
[2007.10.09 19:37:41] The Shadow: Butterfly - don't just do Christmas Christmas T-Shirts chrismas ... it needs to be natural sentences in descriptions
[2007.10.09 19:37:41] NiftyGaloot: Google's keyword tool: https://adwords.google.com/select/KeywordToolExternal
[2007.10.09 19:38:10] Butterfly: Shadow ~ THANK YOU!
[2007.10.09 19:38:11] AngelaCP: Agreed shadow. Do not just list a bunch of top keywords. That will make your site look bad... a bit unprofessional imho
[2007.10.09 19:38:24] AngelaCP: My tip:
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[2007.10.09 19:38:45] kippy: and it's also a HUGE turn off for affiliates to list keywords!
[2007.10.09 19:38:49] AngelaCP: List all the keywords that are great for your specific shop, incorporate the holiday keywords and then make them into sentences
[2007.10.09 19:39:08] AngelaCP: you can play around with a great compelling sentence that's also good for search engines
[2007.10.09 19:39:21] Alan (deadhippo): Sorry for repeating my concern but I think it deserves an answer of some sort - some of our shoppers search the marketplace for words like t-shirt and gifts etc. Surely if we don't use these words as tags we are losing out.
[2007.10.09 19:39:29] The Shadow: one thing to do is just enter a search you want to target in google... if there are 25million results, you probably are going to have a tough time competing... if there are say 100,00 you have a much better chace to compete
[2007.10.09 19:39:43] AngelaCP: Our search will pull all products for t-shirts
[2007.10.09 19:39:53] AngelaCP: there's no need to add the products in your tags
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[2007.10.09 19:40:20] AngelaCP: This is more of a Tag question than SEO... we'll have last week's Tag chat transcript up soon. This was covered
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[2007.10.09 19:40:45] Rhea: so angela, is it a waste of time to use the names of products in tags, like "mug" or "magnets?"
[2007.10.09 19:40:59] AngelaCP: It's not necessary, but people are doing it
[2007.10.09 19:41:12] Alan (deadhippo): For example if I search the marketplace for "africa t-shirt" there are 3000 designs but just "africa" has 13,000 designs
[2007.10.09 19:41:46] AngelaCP: I'm not sure why it does that... perhaps images that do not have t-shirts but with tags of tshirts come up?
[2007.10.09 19:42:08] AngelaCP: SKs are using bulk tags and probably tagged : mug, tshirt, mousepad, etc all on a collection of images
[2007.10.09 19:42:18] AngelaCP: that would explain why there's more results.
[2007.10.09 19:42:20] Alan (deadhippo): Sorry for hijacking
[2007.10.09 19:42:31] AngelaCP: it's okay... so email me if you have any more questions...
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[2007.10.09 19:42:35] electricgreen: Doesn't it take a while to be indexed in search engines? If so, wouldn't it be counter productive to change your keywords for holidays, since it could take months for them to be picked up?
[2007.10.09 19:42:49] AngelaCP: It's better earlier.. but it's not harmful
[2007.10.09 19:43:01] magadog1: I try to vary them because I have a lot of products and designs\
[2007.10.09 19:43:32] AngelaCP: so if you already have your keywords in place.. you want to add gifts, holidays along with your keywords
[2007.10.09 19:43:35] AngelaCP: that won't harm you
[2007.10.09 19:43:44] AngelaCP: but can get you to come up for the holiday searchs
[2007.10.09 19:43:59] The Shadow: electricgreen it depends how often google indexes you... you can check the google cache of your site daily for a while and you can determine how long it will take
[2007.10.09 19:44:13] AngelaCP: I nominate The Shadow as SEO guru!
[2007.10.09 19:44:19] AngelaCP: thanks for all the tips and sharing :)
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[2007.10.09 19:44:29] electricgreen: I second Angela's nomination!'
[2007.10.09 19:44:32] The Shadow: google reindexes my offsite 8 times a month now
[2007.10.09 19:44:40] Alan (deadhippo): New pages can take a while to be re-indexed but edited pages can be re-indexed very very fast sometimes
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[2007.10.09 19:44:52] Robb: Yup - thanks Shadow. Write an article or something...
[2007.10.09 19:44:54] The Shadow: lol..thanks Angela and you're welcome
[2007.10.09 19:44:56] AngelaCP: So everyone it's closing time for Britta and I.
[2007.10.09 19:45:17] AngelaCP: Sorry we have to leave... carpool awaits us
[2007.10.09 19:45:18] rasael: Thank you Angela and Britta
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[2007.10.09 19:45:27] AngelaCP: We hope this is helpful!
[2007.10.09 19:45:29] The Shadow: i know enough to be dangerous :)
[2007.10.09 19:45:32] birdface@comcast.net: thanx guys. Good stuff!!!
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[2007.10.09 19:45:42] AngelaCP: we made Holiday seo number 1 in the series because it's VERY IMPORTANT
[2007.10.09 19:45:52] Robb: Well, thanks for your info and help, A+B...take care!
[2007.10.09 19:45:52] Rhea: 10Q! angela and britta
[2007.10.09 19:45:55] The Shadow: thanks Angela and Britta!! take care
[2007.10.09 19:45:57] NiftyGaloot: Thanks Angela and Britta! :)
[2007.10.09 19:46:01] AngelaCP: Thakns everyone
[2007.10.09 19:46:10] AngelaCP: I encourage everyone who can to stay and chat in the lobby
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[2007.10.09 19:46:14] BrittaCP: Lobby is open
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[2007.10.09 19:46:20] AngelaCP: we have a lot of seasoned SKs here that can help answer any questions
[2007.10.09 19:46:21] AngelaCP: share
[2007.10.09 19:46:28] AngelaCP: you guys can learn from each other
[2007.10.09 19:46:40] AngelaCP: Maybe The Shadow might even stay for a bit ;)
[2007.10.09 19:46:48] kippy: bye ang and britta, thanks!
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